This is where we finally start to agree. lol. On the subject of the basic human rights, I am a thousand percent on board with you. It is wrong to deny somebody civil liberties that everybody else has. The way I see it (I know a lot of people will fight to the death on this but whatever) nobody is different. We're all people. We all live and coexist on this earth regardless of the color of our skin, religion, ethnicity, or sexual orientation. We've gotten to a point where we can't just see a person at face value and we have to judge every bit of their existence before we can deem them suitable to have basic rights and liberties which is wrong.
I'm aware of some, not all but some, of the hardships gays have to go through from seeing my friends struggle on a day to day basis. The one thing that's made me proud is that churches around here aren't condemning gays like they used to. I've heard pastors saying that regardless of what you do, as long as you glorify God then He will treat you with love and I wholeheartedly believe that. You'd be hard pressed to find many people like that but to see acceptance on that level bringing at least a litle hope is a positive step.
It just seems to me that when confronting the issue, the movement takes on the characteristics of the issue itself. People are apprehensive to come out and say what they believe and be proud of what they believe in for fear of the consequences. But when you're faced with an issue as potent as this one, chances need to be taken and it's something I haven't seen much of.
People are allowed to be homophobic? I watched one of my friends get suspended for 2 weeks just for calling a kid a faggot but watched as a group of kids loudly and violently threatened to lynch a group of black kids I was with and nothing was done about it. Race has been and still is overlooked, nothing has changed. I'll admit, when you look at the north and the south, the north is a lot more open minded as far as race and ethnicity are concerned. It's a much more level playing field once you bring the question of sexual orientation into it.
I'm gonna tell you a short story. I'm a white man, and I love women. My downfall is that I love a variety of women of all shapes, colors, sizes, in a family that is bitterly racist. The first time I dated a black girl, I was told to get the fuck out and come back when me and the nigger broke up. I wasn't welcome in my own home because of that. That is a regular occurrence in the world I've lived in and seen.
I'm not arguing with the fact that bullying needs to stop. I'm not saying the cause isn't a righteous one. But, there are ways to go about it if you actually want to incite change rather than casually catch everyone's attention for a moment. It was a step that caused curiosity amongst a lot of people but the part that irks me is that people were willing to leave it at that and not take any further steps to try to fix it. They were content with a job half done and as far as I see it, a job not finished is a failure.
Well it seems we live in 2 completely different worlds, because my experiences are far different than yours regarding racism, but that’s probably because I grew up in the ghetto. I see far more racism towards Caucasians and Native Americans than any other race. Anyways, I think basic human rights for gays (i.e being able to see their partner on their death bed in the hospital) is far more important at the moment.
All these sudden suicides have brought about a drastic change in the way people are going about getting basic rights for homosexuals, so many organizations have opened up; FCKH8, getmethroughthenight.com, NOH8 (but this one’s been around for awhile), and this is just a few. Just because you as an individual can’t see it doesn’t mean people haven’t started taking this seriously. Again, the whole reason people wore purple was a way to tell other teens and kids that there is hope and that it gets better. I wish you could see that gay teens have absolutely no one to go to because the majority of them are still being raised to think that being gay or bi is wrong, gross, or just sinful. So they keep it inside and if they do get the courage to come out of the closet sometimes they end up being accepted and surrounded by so many people who love and support them.. but most are subject to terrible bullying, denied to go to prom, not allowed to donate blood, get married, etcetc. Homosexuals are restricted in far more ways than you think.
The whole point of this movement right now is to let people know that it’s ok to be gay and people need to understand that.
Anyways, blahblahblah I could ramble on and tell you tons of stories but I’d rather not bore you or anyone who might be reading this.
Don't call somebody ignorant until you look yourself in the mirror. I'll tell you one thing: There have been no steps taken to rid schools of racism or any discrimination of that sort. On the surface, people that are outrageous and act out in such a way that the public eye is caught are reprimanded for racist acts. But on a day to day basis, racism is VERY prevalent in schools in the south and not a damn thing is done about it. People turn a blind eye and forget about it until something bad happens.
88 is right. Using the color purple as a way to get people to pay attention isn't going to solve anything. It'll make people curious for a minute and by next week, nobody will care, most won't even remember. In no way do I support or condone bullying. But nothing anybody does will ever end it. I have been on both the giving and receiving end of bullying so I know a little bit. I'm all for sending a message and I was a part of the movement last Wednesday to wear purple. But the fact remains that it doesn't change a damn thing.
I can also say that when he says "humanity" he doesn't just mean caucasians. There are plenty of people other than whites who lash out at each other with racially or ethnically fueled hate. I've lived in New York and I live in the south now. I've seen this in a million different ways my whole life and it doesn't change no matter where you go. He's not ignorant and he has an idea what he's talking about. To come after him for saying something based in truth doesn't make you any better of a person.
Ok, you’ve lived a lot of places! Congratulations. Anyways, first of all did you read that the color purple represents Hope and that’s why we wore those colors, it’s not some color someone randomly picked to represent gay people.
You know, in the north (I’m from Minnesota) we are generally considered open minded and I thought the same until I went to the memorial for one of the teens that died in my state. Do you realize almost all of the stuff that happens to gays and their families is overlooked and nothing is done? I heard numerous stories of their houses and even their work places being vandalized.
"There have been no steps taken to rid schools of racism or any discrimination of that sort."
Excuse me? Teachers and students are allowed to be homophobic, but racist teachers are fired/not hired and students are suspended/expelled. Racism might be prevalent in the south, but not so much in the north. And yeah, that’s bad… but how many times have you heard of someone killing themselves over the color of their skin, or their religion? They have someone to go to; 90% of the time gay teens have no one to talk to and no one to go to when their parents decide to disown them for their sexual orientation. How many parents disown their kids for the color of their skin or religion?
You know what’s more important to you and I know what’s more important for me, either way bullying needs to be stopped.
P.S - The color purple was also worn for straight teens. It was worn for everyone to get a message out that there is hope and to not give up. The message was, “It gets better”.
Gay people aren’t any different from straight people. The fuck is everyone getting on this bandwagon right now?
Is bullying something that is new? What about the bullying humanity does towards blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Asians & Muslims? Are we gonna dedicate a color towards them? Of course not,…
Well, first of all reread what is written in this post;
"Is bullying something that is new? What about the bullying humanity does towards blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Asians & Muslims? Are we gonna dedicate a color towards them? Of course not,… "
Bullying isn’t something new but OBVIOUSLY steps have been taken to make sure that there is no racism in schools, it’s not tolerated and taken very seriously. And when this person says ‘humanity’ it’s obvious that it’s directed towards Caucasians. Anyways, very small steps have been taken to protect gay/bi/trans teens in schools or on the streets.
Purple isn’t dedicated to the gays as a single color, it’s part of the rainbow and each color on the rainbow flag represents something.
So a message to everyone else who thinks they know what they are talking about. Do your damn research before posting some ignorant shit thinking you’re cool.